Tuesday, October 6, 2009

9/11 Truthers Exposed

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"It goes without saying, that any of us who argue against Conspiracy Theories are part of the Conspiracy. The Conspiracy Theories are fairy story realities, they are a narrative which improves apon reality itself." - Quote from book author David Aaronovitch

Welcome to this presentation of "9/11 Truthers Exposed". The presentation is based on exposing the ideas, myths, strawmen arguements, fradulant claims and fantasy stories surrounding the events of September 11, 2001 from the 9/11 Truthers, 9/11 Truth Movement, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. As being narrative and fairy stories on the assumptions of their imaginations reguarding 9/11. We will expose the 9/11 Truthers and what they believe in it's entirety, from years of researching and understanding the Truthers.

If anyone reading this presentation would like to print copies of it, they can do so, free of charge. If anyone is living in New York and goes to Ground Zero, daily or on the anniversaries, they can present a copy of this presentation to anyone of their choosing, including the 9/11 Truthers, since this presentation is of the people, by the people and for the people.

Truthers are told to do the following:

1: Deceive - Misrepresent the claims of 9/11 Researchers into "Strawman" issues that are easily knocked down.

2: Dodge - Try to avoid or ignore any 9/11 evidence that you can not explain away.

3: Deny - Refuse to acknowledge any irrefutable evidence given is relevant to the 9/11 arguement.

4: Discredit - Use any possible ad hominem accusation to ruin the credibility of 9/11 Researchers.

5: Repeat - Repeat the Conspiracy Theories constantly.



Quote Mining the Witnesses:

Truthers often quote mine the witness statements to try and prove that there is a conspiracy by the FDNY, Larry Silverstein & the U.S. Government. Example: Larry Silverstein's "Pull it" comment:

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna to be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

Truthers have tried, in vain, to prove that Larry Silverstein wanted to demolish World Trade Center 7 with explosives. They quote mine his statement & misrepresent everything that he said. Let's break down his statement to make it clear that he didn't give out orders to the FDNY to have WTC7 CDed (Controlled Demolitioned):

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander,...."

He was talking with the FDNY commander at the time, not a Controlled Demolishes Expert!

"telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire."

WTC7 had uncontrollable fires and the firefighters couldn't fight it because the water mains were already broken by the collapse of WTC 1 and 2.

"I said: "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

The term "Pull it" is a firefighter term that means: "Cease all operations and pull all available firemen out of the building." Because WTC7 was on fire and it was leaning in certain areas and groaning. The ISO, or Incident Safety Officer, determined that the building wasn't structrually sound and he made a decision to pull the rescue operation and save the firefighters from certain death. Truthers often use this tactic so they can try and make a "point". 


The "2.25 second free fall" Endevour:
"Explosions doesn't equat to explosives."

Truthers are often lead to believe that WTC7 was in free fall for 2.25 seconds, although it's only a fraction of a free fall, Truthers insist that it's an indication that WTC7 fell because of "explosives". Although it's highly unlikely that 2.25 seconds of free fall was caused by "explosives", the Truthers are reluctant to say: "But the witnesses said they heard explosions."

Let us educate the Truthers about explosions.

Explosions can be caused by anything, including the occasional explosive device, but to the wondering ears of the witnesses, not a single one of them was ever brought to any Manhatten Hospital with blown eardrums. If there were explosives, alot of witnesses would be deaf or permanatly affected by the resulting shockwave.



Don't be like Brian Good or Daryl Carstensen:

There's a fellow on the Screw Loose Change Blog by the name of Brian Good, aka "Snug-Bug". He was kicked out of the 9/11 Truth Movement for being abnoxious and causing trouble. Everyone can do a Google search of this person. He's also caused trouble for Willie Rodriguez and Kevin Barrett.

Daryl Carstensen is like Brian Good in many ways. Both of them love to stalk and harass women online and are abusive. Mr. Carstensen can be found online at http://www.youtube.com/ under the alias "TheCrimsonsGhost" and can be found posting on the "9/11 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77" video by Mike J. Wilson. Mr. Carstensen has been trying to claim libel suit against anyone who uses his name in public, but has failed many times to take anyone to court because of his own misfortunes. Mr. Carstensen lives in North Hollywood and works as a cameraman. His career is foreshadowed by his stance as a 9/11 Truther, why does he risk his career for something as stupid as these 9/11 Conspiracy Theories? That's a question Mr. Carstensen needs to answer.

Failed Therapist:

There is a therapist named Jeppe Severin, he is a member of the A & E for 9/11 Truth. He believes that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" and claims to have "evidence". He's a "Mindfulness Therapy Practitioner" from Copenhagen, Denmark. If you ask him a question reguarding his theories, he will ignore them, also the "evidence" he has is from editted YouTube videos. He says that he quit music & is slacking off his education on therapy. He watches "Loose Change" & "Farhenheit 9/11" films. He believes that the conspiracy theories are "facts" and "prove" a cover-up. If anyone in Copenhagen, Denmark is seeking professional help from a therapist, please don't go to Jeppe Severin. He is using his therapy degree to help brainwash his clients into thinking that 9/11 was an "Inside Job".

Truthers Can't Sue For Libel Purposes:

There are alot of Truthers in the world who seek to sue people for libel damages. Due to websites, such as this blog, which deface and humiliate the Truthers to an extent where the actions of the authors' are justifiable for publishing remarks about them. The word "Libel" in the encyclopedia states: "If statements that are true as an entirety be published against an individual, the act of publication is justifible." This blog and its author has the right to publish anything about the Truthers and to expose them as frauds, charlatans, liars, ect. This portion is a notification to any Truthers willing to sue this blog and its author that it has justifiable reasons and motives to publish this blog. This is due in large part to Mr. Daryl Carstensen, who is trying to sue this blog and its author for making his name public and for telling the truth about him.

Psychology:

The psychology of a 9/11 Truther is that of a person who has limited reasoning skills, thought processes and concepts on reality. Their attitudes towards others with a different view or opinion is very prejudice and has many traits. Take the trait of rigidty, which means inability to adapt to a situation. When they are asked a set of questions or are asked to present evidence reguarding their theories and claims they will change the subject immediately. They adapt to ignore questioning while under pressure to provide evidence to prove their theories and claims. Truthers are very rigid, they are self-contained and have a narrow view of the world and a prevailing outlook on history. They see the world as their group (9/11 Truth Movement) sees it, being that they are "ethnocentric". Consequently Truthers hate the people that are hated by their immediate group, the 9/11 Truth Movement. Truthers have learned to rely upon the authorities and standards which regulate, among other things, the prejudice of the group. Truthers have to have the "standard" prejudices to be a "normal" member of the group. Meaning that if they do not do what the group is expected of them they will not be part of the group. In the years from September 11, 2001, not one single shred of phsyical evidence from a 9/11 Truther has turned up. Truthers often claim to have "mountains of evidence", but won't show it to the general public for fear of being rediculed and humiliated for not having the evidence on hand while in a debate. They will sway away from the real facts and evidence and present their own perverted and twisted versions of events reguarding 9/11. The problem with Truthers is that they imagine everything in a fantasy realm. They will fabricate doctored videos and pictures to suit their motives, it's the only way they can get their false information out to the public. Only they see the fantasy and noone else. The 9/11 Truth Movement doesn't want to look for the truth, they want to cause chaos, riots and murder. How can we get at this basic rigidity of personality of a 9/11 Truther and find a way to test it? Among the tests of rigidity is the following: Evidence that is shown to a Truther and is asked to show another piece of evidence to counter the evidence that has been submitted. The Truthers can't go in for "wild harbrained innovations", such as editted videos or photos that have been photoshopped from the internet or quotes from survivors, victims and eyewitnesses that are taken out of context.

Personality factors of 9/11 Truthers are also easily elicited by the interview, questionaire, and life-history, as in this self-analysis of an avowed Fascist:

Question: Are you easily irritated when people argue with you about 9/11?

Truthers Response: Yes. The one thing I cannot stand in any form is opposition.

Question: Do you easily get upset when things go wrong in an arguement about 9/11?

Truthers Response: Yes. When things go wrong I take it as a humiliating defeat.

Question: Is it hard to admit it when you know you are in the wrong about 9/11?

Truthers Response: Yes. It's difficult for me to retreat one step.

Question: Are certain people so unreasonable that you hate them when you talk about 9/11 with them?

Truthers Response: Yes. Anyone who opposes me I hate.

9/11 Truthers have a conflict, it may be hung up between two alternatives, presenting evidence or admit that they are wrong, and at least for the time being to lose both of those goals only to be rediculed or punished for their indecisions about the truth that there was not a conspiracy by the U.S. Government on September 11, 2001.

Paranoia Schizophrenia & Paranoid Personality Disorder:

9/11 Truthers suffer from paranoia schizophrenia. It's a disease related to the thought process, basically the brain and mental compacity. Truthers suffer from this type of disease because they don't know the events that happened in the real world and that the events of 9/11 were too much for their minds to process the information. They choose to ignore what had happened on 9/11, they think they have seen something other than what reality is projecting. In short they're imagining things that others can't imagine. They also pretend to ignore the evidence presented to them and what they are shown. 9/11 Truthers are mentally disturbed, and maybe that's why they are suffering from paranoia schizophrenia. Truthers also suffer from narcisim, where their reality is warped, where they have a split personality. That's from being themselves one time then being another version of themselves the next. Either way, the Truthers suffer at their own expense and must seek professional psychiatric and psychological help. 9/11 Truthers are so paranoid that they claim that ordinary people who are researching 9/11 and prove them wrong are called: "Disinformants", "Paid Government Agents", "Fascists", "Racists", "Lackys", "Sheeps", "Liars", "Nazis", "NWO Shills", "Jews", "Freemasons", "Brainwashed", "Communists", "OTCers (Official Conspiracy Theorist)", "Murderers", "CIA Agents", "Homosexuals", "Faggots", "Queers", or "Paid Shills". Even though ordinary people are just citizens, and nothing more, the Truthers insist that they are something else entirely. Anyone can research any part of history, they can look at the facts then look at the evidence. Many will find that evidence is key to any debate/arguement. However the Truthers will disreguard the real evidence and rely on imaginary evidence that doesn't support their claims or theories. How can anyone disreguard the real evidence and put in their own imaginary evidence in?

Because the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories are just narrative and fairy stories and nothing more. Their stories contain no evidence and can't be taken seriously. But they can be taken as folk lore or urban legends. Paranoid Personality Disorder is a disorder in which 9/11 Truthers suffer from. Their symptoms include: 1: Concern that other people have hidden motives 2:Expectation that they will be exploited by others 3: Inability to work together with others 4: Poor self image 5: Social isolation 6: Detachment 7: Hostility They believe that people have hidden motives, they expect to get exploited by those who know that 9/11 was an "Inside Job". They're unable to work with those who have researched 9/11 who proved that 9/11 wasn't an "Inside Job". Their image is reflected by the 9/11 Truth Movement & it is poor. They refrain from talking about their evidence, they're detached from all reality & will become hostile towards those who proved them wrong.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Theories:

1: The World Trade Centers were destroyed by explosives, as a result of Controlled Demolition, in the basement and plane impact areas. Firefighters heard explosives going off. The WTCs' fell symmetrically. A remote detenator was used.

2: World Trade Center 7 was not hit by an airplane, but rather the FDNY, NYPD and Larry Silverstein were involved in a cover-up to blow up the building because the information that it contained was classified and they blew it up to destroy the evidence that was in the computers. And that Larry Silverstein gave the order to destroy WTC7 with explosives.

3: Fire was not the cause of World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7 to collapse.

4: First time in history that fire caused a building to collaspe.

5: Flight 11 and 175 were holograms projected onto a missile aimed at the WTCs'.

6: Flight 93 was shot down over Shanksville, Pennsylvania by an unknown fighter or that it landed in Ohio.

7: Dick Cheney gave a stand down order not to allow fighters over Manhatten and Washington, D.C.

8: The firefighters, rescue workers and iron workers are lying.

9: The Official Report or Version is a lie.

10: The U.S. Government was involved in a massive cover up to kill its own civilians.

11: The 19 hijackers are still alive and they found their intact passports.

12: Terrorist/Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for the attacks on 9/11.

13: The 16 foot hole in the Pentagon's C-Ring is too small for an aircraft, such as Flight 77, to go into. And it was a missile that hit the Pentagon and not Flight 77. And some of the windows didn't break.


14: Planting parts of aircraft at the WTC site, the Pentagon and Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

15: The phone calls on the planes were faked and the people on the planes were in on it.

16: Small pockets of fire can be knocked down with only two handlines.

17: The fires were oxygen starved.

18: Nano-thermite, or super-thermite, was used as an high explosive and found in the WTC dust.

19: Thermite was used to melt the steel and was a high explosive.

20: Molten steel was found weeks after the WTCs collasped.


21: Operation Northwoods is evidence of a Government staged black operation or false flag.

22: Jewish people were responsible because 4,000 of them didn't show up for work at the WTC.


23: Countdown to take down WTCs'.


24: Death rays from space that caused the steel to pulverize.

25: There's nothing left of the planes' to be identifiable as being planes'.

26: There were no planes.

27: Free Fall Speed

28: Squibs

29: People heard explosions and this is evidence to support Controlled Demolition.

30: The pods under the planes are really missile compartments and that the planes were military because they showed no windows.

31: The 1993 WTC Bombing was not a Terrorist attack leading up to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

32: September 11th is proof that the U.S. Government is planning a New World Order.

33: Larry Silverstein is covering up the explosion of WTC7 because the building had Government documents which needed to be destroyed. And he drew out a massive insurance policy before the attacks.

34: The Government made it happen on purpose (MIHOP) or let it happen on purpose (LIHOP).

35: Barry Jennings is an eyewitness and heard explosives going off inside the Towers'. He was killed by the Government to silence him.

36: The 19 Hijackers were not capable of flying the planes that were used on 9/11.


37: The World Trade Center buildings were able to take multiple impacts from large planes.

38: The dust that came from the World Trade Centers were pyroclastic flows.

39: The planes were not tracked by the FAA on radar because the transponders were turned off.

40: The Flight Data Recorders on all 4 planes are fake and prove a conspiracy.

41: The BBC predicted that WTC 7 was going to implode 20 mintues before it imploded.

42: The World Trade Center steel was destroyed to hide the evidence of a Government cover-up.

43: Fuel from the planes could not have caused the WTCs' to collapse.

44: There were no bodies recovered from the 4 planes. Proof that it was a cover-up.

45: Flight 77's wings showed no damage.

46: Gravity wasn't the result or cause of the WTCs' collapse. And jet fuel cannot travel down an elevator shaft.

47: Hani Hanjour couldn't have flown Flight 77.

48: Planes were flown by Remote Control.


49: Elevator shaft is proof that a Controlled Demolition Company planted explosive charges at the Core Columns.

50: Controlled Demolition Companies are working for and are part of the Federal Government.

Conspiracy vs Evidence:


"We hold these truths to be self evident." - U.S. Constitution

The evidence shown from the 9/11 Commission Report, Controlled Demolition Experts, Purdue University, FEMA, MIT, EMRTC, NIST, NORAD, NEADS, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Civil Engineers, FAA, American Airlines, United Airlines, Eyewitnesses, 9/11 Victims and their Families, Air Force, State Government, State Senate, National Government, Congress, New York City, Fire Investigators, Fire Sciences, Fire Dispatchers, FDNY, NYPD, Police Dispatchers, New York Port Authority Police, Pentagon, Emergency Service Unit, Bode Technology, New York Medical Examiners Office, Military and Local sources from Government and Civilian sectors support the evidence that 9/11 was caused by radical Islamic terrorist, known as Al Qaeda, and not the U.S. Government. It would probably take thousands of people to "cover-up" 9/11, not a single person or Truther, has ever come forward to confirm that 9/11 was a "Government Conspiracy".

There is no evidence to support the Truthers because they don't conduct tests to help support their theories. The Truthers bear the full burden to prove their theories with evidence.

1: The World Trade Centers were destroyed by explosives, as a result of Controlled Demolition, in the basement and plane impact areas. Firefighters heard explosives going off. The WTCs' fell symmetrically. A remote detenator was used.

1a: This would be impossible since there were people in the basement at the time, William Rodrigez, FDNY firefighters and NYPD police officers were very much alive at the time and so were French cameramen filming. Explosives in the plane impact areas would not have survived the nearly 1 hour of burning time. They would have detonated after an immediate fire and the primacords would've been severed or rendered useless by the planes impact. William Rodrigez, a janitor in WTC1, was in Basement Level 1 with his supervisor, at the time Flight 175 impacted the building and heard nothing. He did not say anything about ever seeing an explosive device in the basement or one going off there. No "controlled demolition" occured, and that theory has no evidence to support it.

A controlled demolition starts at the bottom to the top, not the top to the bottom. Plus the fires that raged inside both towers would've set the demolition prematurely, causing the towers to fall sooner than later. But the towers fell later, about 1 hour later, by the extreme fires that raged to soften the steel and causing the bolts and rivets to pop, the fires inside the towers reached between 1,300*F to about 2,000*F, well below the 2,600*F+ heat to melt steel. Maybe that's why Truthers rely on the "explosive" theory because of the steel snapping at certain places when the building collasped.

Explosive shape charges leave behind copper when exploded. Not a single piece of WTC steel that was looked at had any type of copper residue on the columns. The "controlled demolition" theory can't exist because elements don't exist to confirm that 9/11 was an "Inside Job". The FDNY firefighters heard what represented explosives. They heard things exploding inside offices that would be combustible in an office, such as: TV's, computer monitors, electrical wiring, coping machines, furniture, ect. Another possible explosive sound they heard would've been the fuel tanks for the generators, the bolts and rivets holding the outter and inner columns popping from the collaspe.

The Twin Towers didn't fall "symmetrically", the outter columns fell out and away from the buildings while the floors and inner columns fell almost inside the building. The buildings surrounding the 16 acre site were damaged by the Towers collapse, indicating that they didn't fall symmetrically. A remote detenator wouldn't have worked either, because they rely on radio frequencies and there's too many radio frequencies that could set off an explosive prematurely. Controlled Demolitions Expert, Brent Blanchard, who was at Ground Zero, didn't see detenation cords or copper residue on the inner and outter columns of the Twin Towers within the debris. Proving that the claim for Controlled Demolition is a fairy story.

2: World Trade Center 7 was not hit by an airplane, but rather the FDNY, NYPD and Larry Silverstein were involved in a cover-up to blow up the building because the information that it contained was classified and they blew it up to destroy the evidence that was in the computers. And that Larry Silverstein gave the order to destroy WTC7 with explosives.

2a: Despite not having been hit by one of the hijacked passenger planes, WTC7 was not set up with explosives in time for an event such as 9/11. The FDNY, NYPD and Larry Silverstein were not part of any cover up because they are not part of a demolition company that specializes in controlled demolitions. WTC7 did not contain classified information since it was only a building for World Trade. Larry Silverstien was the owner of the WTC complex. Firefighters were quoted as saying: "The building doesn't look right.","See the way this building is leaning? There's no way to stop it (the fire). It's going to come down.".

The "controlled demolition theory" holds no water for WTC7. Simply because there's no evidence to support it. The only way to prove that WTC 7 was a demolition is finding primacords or have a witness who photographed a demolition expert holding a remote detenator or the primacords. A remote detenator wouldn't have worked, because they rely on radio frequencies and there's too many radio frequencies that could set off an explosive prematurely. But the 9/11 Truthers can't even hope to find any evidence. WTC7 wasn't involved in the 9/11 Commission due to the simple fact that it wasn't involved in the terrorist plot. And if they really wanted to destroy documents all they would have to do is burn or shred them in a shredder and wipe out the computers hard drive. Destroying a building because it contains alledged Government documents is ludicrus. WTC7 was hit by debris by WTC1 falling on it, causing a 20 story hole, rupturing fuel lines for the generators and causing uncontrollable fires on mulitple floors.

Structural engineers determined that WTC7's structure had been comprimised by the fires that raged inside the building. Firefighters also confirmed that the fires were uncontrollable and left WTC7 to burn out, at 5:20 PM the building collaspsed under it's own weight due to the fires weakening the steel columns.

3: Fire was not the cause of World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7 to collapse.

3a: The steel trusses, beams and supports inside WTC 1 and 2 were not designed to handle a fire after the fire retardant spray foam blew off after the planes' impacted the structure. The claim that jet fuel fire was not the cause is absurd and rediculas. Flight 11 hit WTC 1 between floors 93 to 99, Flight 175 hit WTC 2 between floors 77 to 84, both planes were fully fueled with 19,000 gallons and the fuel ignited between the floors. Everyone saw that the buildings were on fire for abour 1 hour and the temperatures reached within the debris pile were at about 1,341* F, far below the melting point of steel itself which is 2,600*F+, the steel warped, bent and sagged until the trusses and bolts gave way at their attachment points from the outter columns to the inner core. The sagging trusses also caused the outter columns to bend and warp inward to the breaking point where the columns were bolted together. Bowing of the outter columns was also confirmed from videos and pictures that were taken.

No explosives would be able to bow steel columns. Truthers don't know that fire can produce steel from iron ore. So steel was born by fire, and the steel in WTC 1, 2 and 7 were brought down by fire. The jet fuel ignited office equipment within the Towers, adding to the intensity of the fires. FDNY firefighters are even quoted as saying that there were large fires on multiple floors. Steel is formed when Iron Ore is put under intensive heat, it could be fire, a blast furnace or with electricity from a steel mill. In the Bronze and Middle Ages there were blacksmiths that hand forged steel to make weapons or other steel products. They subjected the steel in a coal fire and maintained the intensive fire with bellows, the steel would then soften and were hand forged on an anvil. Steel is a great conductor of heat, and the heat that was generated inside WTC 1, 2 and 7 by the fires was suffient to cause the steel to weaken.

If the Truthers seriously believe that fire wasn't the main cause of the collapses, then they seriously need to go back to school and brush up on their history. Also Truthers point out that the Empire State Building was hit by a B-25 Mitchell Bomber and that the fire didn't cause the ESB to collapse. There's a major difference in construction and design between the ESB and the WTCs' and that of a B-25 Mitchell Bomber and those of a 757 and 767's commerical jets. They're not even built the same way, the ESB was built with the inner core columns encased in cement and the WTCs' weren't, the WTC steel was only coated with fire retardant foam. 

4: First time in history that fire caused a building to collaspe.

4a: There were alot of fires that collapsed a building or some other steel structure, such as the Oakland steel bridge overpass, and the Kader Toy Factory were of fire related collapse. Rosie O'Donnell was made infamous as a result of having said: "First time in history that fire caused a building to collaspe." Miss O'Donnell is not a firefighter or structural engineer, she's only an actress.


5: Flight 11 and 175 were holograms projected onto a missile aimed at the WTCs'.

5a: Holograms are only projected at night and can only be seen at night and not during the day.

A "missile" would be hard to mask in broad daylight. And there is no hologram device big enough to generate a hologram as big as a 757 or 767 in broad daylight.

6: Flight 93 was shot down over Shanksville, Pennsylvania by an unknown fighter or that it landed in Ohio.

6a: Phone calls from the passengers onboard Flight 93 confirm that it was not "shot down". The FAA in Ohio never confirmed that Flight 93 landed at an airport. Parts from the plane and human remains were identified near Shanksville, PA.

Evidence at the crash site is consistant with Flight 93. The debris that was at Indian Lake from the location of the crash site was about 1.5 miles, not 6.48 miles as indicated by the 9/11 Truthers. If it were 6.48 miles, the Truthers would have to drive on the road to get to Indian Lake. The John P. Murtha Airport, aka Johnstown Airport, located 20 miles north of Shanksville in Johnstown, Pennsylvania is the nearest airport that could send Military aircraft. The only problem with the Truthers theory about Flight 93 getting "shot down" by a jet fighter is impossible, due to the fact that Johnstown Airport only has Apache Helicopters and no jet fighters.

7: Dick Cheney gave a stand down order not to allow fighters over Manhatten and Washington, D.C.

7a: Fighters were called by NORAD, NEADS and the FAA to protect Manhatten and Washington, D.C. while the attacks happened. The fighters had to fuel up, get weapons, ask the ATC for clearance and takeoff, then proceed to their targets. It took time to get the fighters airbourne. Secretary Norman Maneta asked the Vice President: "Do the orders still stand?". What Norman Maneta asked the VP, originally, was: "Do the orders still stand to shoot down the hijacked planes?" There's no evidence that there was a "stand down order".

8: The firefighters, rescue workers and iron workers are lying.

8a: The only problem with this claim is that the Truthers were not there on 9/11 or after the tragedy helping to clean up the debris and human remains. So how do the Truthers know for a fact that they are "lying"? Because they can't and they weren't there! So the Truthers, in reality and fact, are the ones lying. Truthers were either at work or at home on the couch watching the event unfold on Live TV. Then when Conspiracy Theorist started claiming that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" they simply wanted to be part of something because they either have no lives or they wanted to attract attention to themselves.

9: The Official Report or Version is a lie.


9a: Experts and scientist from around the world is the only credible source to prove that the Offical Report or Version is not a lie. Truthers only rely on teachers, college drop outs, radio personalities and editted internet videos/pictures and other Truther websites for their information. So the only plausible lie is what the Truthers provide.

The Official Report is the only official statement reguarding 9/11. Not a single 9/11 Conspiracy Theory is "official" considering the lack of evidence to prove them.

10: The U.S. Government was involved in a massive cover up to kill its own civilians.

10a: "Operation Northwoods" proves that it wasn't planned for 9/11 nor does it indicate that civilians were at any risk if the operation were to be in effect. "Operation Northwoods" was declassified on Novemeber, 17, 1997. And this operation was planned during the Cold War by Robert S. McNamera, but President John F. Kennedy didn't approve it in 1962. And it doesn't state that 9/11 was part of the plan. Plus there would've been thousands of people involved which would be rediculas since not a single co-conspiractor has ever come forward to prove the "Government Conspiracy" theory.


11: The 19 hijackers are still alive and they found their intact passports.

11a: Mistaken identity is the only explanation why Truthers think that they are alive. The hijackers were caught on the airport security cameras. Passports are fragile pieces of paper, but paper can fly through the air at the right time in the right place and not catch fire. Things can happen that are explainable, but to a Truther it's purely magic.

12: Terrorist/Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for the attacks on 9/11.

12a: The 1993 WTC, the USS Cole and U.S. Embassy Bombings are related and confirmed to be perpatraited by Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda because Bin Laden openly admitted to the attacks. The attack on the WTC in 1993 was a terrorist attack by Ramzi Yousef, his uncle was principle architect of the 9/11 Attacks and is linked to Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. Maybe the Truthers are sympathetic towards the Terrorist if they deny their existence?

13: The 16 foot hole in the Pentagon's C-Ring is too small for an aircraft, such as Flight 77, to go into. And it was a missile that hit the Pentagon and not Flight 77. And some of the windows didn't break.

13a: The 16 foot hole is an exit hole made by the reinforced nose section of Flight 77. The nose contained the radar system and nose landing gear. All of which were found around the 16 foot hole. The entrance hole, which Flight 77 flew into, was estimated at 75 feet in the fascade of the Pentagon. Truthers will disreguard the 75 foot hole and assume that the 16 foot hole is where the plane entered. Truthers would have people believe that Flight 77 would make a cartoon cut-out in the fascade. There is no evidence to indicate that it was a missile.

The "Missile Theory" is just a silly little claim that the Truthers came up with because they misrepresented News reporter Mike Walter's comment that he saw Flight 77 heading towards the Pentagon at a high rate of speed and that it "was like" a missile. Truthers also misrepresent, misquote or take out of context other eyewitness accounts that they saw Flight 77. Truthers would have others believe that a missile can hit 5 light poles and move a massive generator 3 feet toward the Pentagon without causing damage to the missile itself. If there was a "missile" there would be debris or parts of it from it hitting the 5 light poles and the generator. No evidence was ever found to prove that a "missile" hit the Pentagon.

The "Magic Missile" is just a decoy like the "Magic Bullet" was to the Warren Commission in the JFK Assassination. A bullet can't turn in mid-air and a missile can't hit 5 light poles and a generator without causing damage to the missile itself. But to a Truther it was pure magic, and nothing else.

Another remarkable piece of evidence to prove that it was Flight 77 comes from Lt. Col. Steve O'Brian. Lt. Col. O'Brian was ordered by NORAD, NEADS and the FAA to track Flight 77 from the C-130 he was flying. Lt. Col. O'Brian told NORAD, NEADS and the FAA that he saw a low flying commerical jet with American Airlines markings just North of his Southern position when he was flying West. He told NORAD, NEADS and FAA over the radio that the plane was flying low and fast, he also told them that Flight 77 was down and that he saw a big fire ball and smoke coming from the Pentagon after Flight 77 crashed into it.

The windows in the Pentagon were blast resistant, because the West side of the Pentagon was being upgraded and renovated to handle an attack on the building. Dylan Avery, director of the "Loose Change" films, believes that the 16 ft. hole was in the fascade of the Pentagon, because he loosely said that it was the "outter wall" in his films. He never mentions in his films that the 16 ft. hole was located in the C-Ring of the building, which is an inner wall to a 3rd section of the west side of the Pentagon.

14: Planting parts of aircraft at the WTC site, the Pentagon and Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

14a: Not one person was ever quoted seeing people planting plane parts. If anything was planted it was the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories by paranoid schizophrentics. Truthers are probably people who are planted by the 9/11 Truth Movement so they can cause chaos and start a revolution that might end up being a war.

15: The phone calls on the planes were faked and the people on the planes were in on it.

15a: If anyone has been on a plane and were able to call from the plane on a cell phone or the planes phone at low/high altitude then it is confirmed. There is no evidence to prove that the passengers were ever in on it. The phone calls from the cells phones could reach 40,000 to 50,000 feet. There were no morphing devices or voice changers to "fake" the calls.

If the Truthers want a voice changer, why don't they go buy a Darth Vader Helmet with a voice changer on it?

16: Small pockets of fire can be knocked down with only two handlines.

16a: FDNY firefighters confirmed on the 78th floor of WTC1 that the fires were on multiple floors and they confirmed that they had small pockets of fire in the stairwell and could knock it down with two handlines. They were not able to attack the fire on the floor itself because the building collapsed as they made their way in, and severed the hydrant lines and sprinkler systems when the building collasped. They died being heroes and Truthers disreguard it.

17: The fires were oxygen starved.

17a: When a firefighter sees large volumes of smoke there is no "oxygen starved fire". In a skyscraper the wind can help genereate enough oxygen to feed the fire with the combustible components inside the office buildings. Truthers don't know what oxygen starved means, let alone what a firefighters job consist of knowing what fires, combustibles and oxygen can do to a structure. Truthers are not qualified to make that kind of judgement. An oxygen starved fire only produces small amounts of smoke, on 9/11 there was a huge volume of smoke present. Which cancels out the "oxygen straved fire" theory.

18: Nano-thermite, or super-thermite, was used as an high explosive and found in the WTC dust.

18a: Nano-thermite is used in thermite grenades, only a small amount of it is ever used. Nano-thermite is aluminum dust (and Iron Oxide "Rust") and the WTCs' fascade were clad in aluminum, it's just a coincidence and nothing more. Thermite grenades were used to disable enemy artillery pieces during WWII. Also the dust contained asbestoses, glass, concrete fibers and human remains. The verdict about nano-thermite found in the red chips is nothing more than paint chips that were found in the debris at Ground Zero. They've found that the red paint chips contained aluminum dust and iron oxide, which is a paint additive to prevent rusting, on the columns of the WTCs' steel. This is possible because during contruction bare steel would've been rusted and they coated them to prevent rust from forming. Painters often apply a base coat, or primer, so the paint to be applied could adhere to the surface, the color of the primer is usually grey, which was found behind the red painted surface on the chips. This is conclussive evidence that the Truthers are looking at ordinary paint chips and not "explosive nano-thermite".

If there was nano-thermite, or super-thermite on the steel, even a thin coat, it would do what a sparkler would do. It wouldn't cause the steel to melt or be cut, it would fizzle and burn out within seconds. Nano-thermite contains aluminum and iron dust (iron rust). This theory is based on the controlled demolition theory by the Truthers.

19: Thermite was used to melt the steel and was a high explosive.

19a: Thermite is only used to weld steel components together such as rails for a railroad. It is not a high explosive. Truthers will direct their attention to Thermate and Nano-thermite to try and throw off people with knowledge of all three (Thermite, Thermate and Nanothermite). They know nothing about all three! They assume that they're "high explosives" because a few teachers, who have no backgrounds in the materials, said so. In an episode with the Mythbusters they attempted to cut an Ford SUV in half with more than a 1,000 lbs. of Thermite, but it couldn't cut it in half, not even the engine block. There's proof that sparklers are covered with thermite and the small gauge steel wire doesn't melt under the high intensity when they're lit for the 4th of July.

Even EMRTC couldn't cut a small steel beam with 145 lbs of thermite. If the Twin Towers were full of Thermite, as the Truthers claim, the result would be nothing more than a giant sparkler being set off. Thermite contains aluminum and iron dust (iron rust). This theory is based on the controlled demolition theory by the Truthers. 20: Molten steel was found weeks after the WTCs collasped. 20a: There was no molten steel found at Ground Zero. Aluminum would be the only molten metal found because it's melting point is around 850* F to 900* F. The temperature in the debris never reached 2,600* F to melt steel. The temperature readings from the thermal imaging cameras estimated that the debris only reached 1,341*F to little over 2,000*F, not being able to reach the 2600*F temperature to melt steel. Firefighters also came to the same verdict after searching the area with thermal imaging cameras to locate possible survivors and fire hot spots within the debris field. Steven Jones said that the steel would've solidified after a few minutes and the Truthers rely on his own words. There's a doctored picture of firefighters surrounding what appears to be "molten steel", but in reality it was a light they were using to search for survivors at night. This theory is based on the controlled demolition theory by the Truthers.

21: Operation Northwoods is evidence of a Government staged black operation or false flag.

21a: "Operation Northwoods" was declassified on Novemeber 17, 1997. It was never used and never mentions anything about plotting to kill people within the U.S. It only states that the U.S. Military was to load an U.S. Air Force jet, fill it with dummies, and remote detenate it over International Waters near Cuba and place blame on the Cubans for "killing" people on a fake "passenger jet". This way the U.S. Military could go to Cuba and dismantle the Russian missiles that Russia supplied Cuba with. "Opertaion Northwoods" doesn't even mention 9/11.

22: Jewish people were responsible because 4,000 of them didn't show up for work at the WTC.

22a: Just because they didn't show up for work doesn't mean they "planned" for something to happen. If a 9/11 Truther is using this to blame the Jewish people and they call someone a Nazi, they might as well just be calling themselves a Nazi for making that remark in the first place. 9/11 Truthers deny the existence of the Holocaust and will defend those who deny it also. This is proof that Truthers are anti-semetic and racist.

23: Countdown to take down WTCs'.

23a: No witness was ever quoted as saying about a countdown. This strawman arguement is just another throwback to prove the "controlled demolition" theory by the 9/11 Truthers.

24: Death rays from space that caused the steel to pulverize.

24a: This claim is straight out of Star Trek and Star Wars. Only science fiction could make this claim possible. There's no USS Enterprize E or a Death Star out in space. "Set phasers to vaporize." and "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.". Only Hollywood and fiction can do this justice!

Although the U.S. Air Force has developed a laser cannon on a military jet it's only limited to knocking out missiles that it can detect. It's not capable of knocking down buildings. Jim Fetzer and Judy Wood believe in this strawman arguement, Truthers also believe the same thing.

25: There's nothing left of the planes' to be identifiable as being planes'.

25a: Because there were scattered parts of the planes every where after impacting a solid structure or ground at 500+ mph. What do the Truthers expect to find? Massive parts or sections of plane that's still recongizable? Also they found markings that match the planes' identities and the flight data recorders.

26: There were no planes.

26a: There were commercial planes, the eyewitnesses and News Media captured them on camera. Truthers who use this claim just turn a blind eye, and really don't want to see the film footage that actually shows planes on them because it debunks their theory. No planers really are no brainers!

27: Free Fall Speed

27a: The average human skydiving at 10,000 ft. will reach a vertical velocity of 120 mph. The buildings wouldn't be able to produce any sort of free fall because WTC 1 and 2 were 1,368 ft. in height and the energy created when they collapsed caused enough resistence to slow the collapse down as the floors impacted each other. If the Truthers still insist that the buildings free falled the only logical solution would be to place them out into space where the air resistence is zero. Again, Rosie O'Donnell makes this claim and she's only an actress. Newtons Law of Gravity with air and structural resistance forces: F=G,M,M2xD2 divided by AR (air resistance). x SR (structural resistance)= No Free Fall Speed. The only way to achieve free fall speed would be to go into space where the Law of Physics doesn't apply, except here on Earth and other planets in our solar system . Because in space there's no air or structural resistance and objects simply free fall.

28: Squibs

28a: The air pressure from the floors impacting each other while WTC 1 and 2 collapsed caused enough air to burst the windows and escape, also causing dust and debris to be ejected. This theory is also linked with the "controlled demolition theory".

29: People heard explosions and this is evidence to support Controlled Demolition.

29a: The explosions could be caused by explosive and combustible objects inside the office buildings. Such as: TV and computer monitors, back up batteries, fuel tanks for back up generators and other things you will find in an office building. The floors that were collasping could've been heard as being "explosive", the popping of rivets and bolts can also be contributed. There's no evidence that there was ever a CD at the WTC complex. No detenation cords were ever found in the debris, no copper residue on the columns.

Truthers will also point out that they don't need detenation cords for a CD, but rather a remote detenator. Besides if there were explosions from dynamite or explosive charges they would've been heard up to 1/2 mile. Not a single person ever came forward, who was across the Hudson River, said that they heard explosive sounds. Not even the people standing near the WTCs' a couple blocks away said that they never heard any type of explosive sounds coming from the buildings. All they heard was buildings collapsing under their own weight.

30: The pods under the planes are really missile compartments and that the planes were military because they showed no windows.

30a: The "pods" under the planes are nothing more than a compartment where the landing gear goes into, also called wheel fairings. The compartment is also reinforced to hold the load of the plane, fuel and where the wings are attached to the fuselage. Truthers really don't know how a 757 or 767 is constructed and choose to ignore it. The planes weren't military planes and they had windows and markings of commerical civilian planes from United Airlines and American Airlines.

31: The 1993 WTC Bombing was not a Terrorist attack leading up to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

31a: The Terrorist planned the destruction of the WTC complex from the 1993 attack on Feburary 26th. An Egyptian informant who worked with the FBI, last name Salem, was to infiltrait Ramzi Yousef's group of co-conspiractors. Salem was insructed to take down notes of the conspiracy and the plot to take down WTC1 by Yousef, with the attempt to have WTC1 to topple into WTC2 and cause massive damage and human losses. Salem also was trained by the FBI to record phone calls made by Yousef to his uncle. Yousef's uncle was then traced back to Osama Bin Laden who was the principle architect behind the 9/11 attacks. Yousef used a Ryder moving van filled with explosives, along with a co-conspiractor he was able to park the van in WTC1's garage and detonate it. After Yousef's arrest, Yousef even said to the FBI: "It is not yet finished.". Yousef's uncle conspired with Osama Bin Laden to use planes or bombs to take out the WTC's, Military and Government buildings.

On September 11, 2001 the terrorist used planes to destroy the WTC complex and also damage the Pentagon. The terrorist succeeded in destroying the WTCs' from the Feburary 26, 1993 Bombing. Yousef was also a member of Al Queda and was training in Afghanistan with Osama Bin Laden operatives before he carried out the 1993 bombing.

32: September 11th is proof that the U.S. Government is planning a New World Order.

32a: Peace could mean NWO, To end world hunger could mean NWO, ect. ect. ect. The U.S. Government isn't after a NWO, the U.S. Constitution wouldn't allow the Government to have enough power to plan a NWO for all the world. Truthers are just paranoid people who think that the world's going to end because there's a NWO to everything. Truthers are just plain crazy! If there's going to be a New World Order, 9/11 Truthers would be the first people to be placed in an insane asylum. Now that would be a start of a New World without paranoid people who tend to make it a bit worse.

Paranoia is known to start wars and global conflicts. Adolf Hitler in WWII, he was paranoid that the Jewish people would "take over the world". Some 9/11 Truthers must think like Adolf Hitler, after all some Truthers do blame the Jewish people for everything that transpires in the world and they also think that the Jewish people are "taking over the world". Truthers are just a bunch of anti-semetic and racist people.

33: Larry Silverstein is covering up the explosion of WTC7 because the building had Government documents which needed to be destroyed. And he drew out a massive insurance policy before the attacks.

33a: Larry Silverstein was only the buildings owner. He had no interest in destroying his own building. The building was already damaged by the collapse of WTC1 and the resulting fires that engulfed the building. There is no evidence to prove that there were Government documents in WTC7. Why not use a shredder or burn any documents that might have existed? That makes sense instead of destroying an entire building. The insurance policy was to insure the building against terrorist attacks because the WTC Complex was attacked by terrorist on Feburary 26, 1993. 34: The Government made it happen on purpose (MIHOP) or let it happen on purpose (LIHOP). 34a: The MIHOP and LIHOP is just another myth that the Truthers insist that the Government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Perhaps with a bit of logical reasoning maybe the Truthers are responsible for letting the Conspiracy Theories happen on purpose and are making them happen on purpose because their personal and political agenda is to expose something that didn't happen and placing blame on the Government for no reason. Truthers probably can't tell the difference between IHOP and Waffle House.

35: Barry Jennings is an eyewitness and heard explosives going off inside the Towers'. He was killed by the Government to silence him.

35a: Barry Jennings was talking to the BBC Network at the time and couldn't possibly have heard any explosive sounds eminating from WTC7. Mr. Jennings died of natural causes and there was nothing suspicious about his death. Truthers only point him out because they have have nothing else to go on and they'll never let him rest in peace, and also the 9/11 Victims. R.I.P. Barry Jennings.

36: The 19 Hijackers were not capable of flying the planes that were used on 9/11.

36a: The 19 Hijackers were trained to fly on a simulator and were able to fly in aircraft with flight instructors in Florida. Documents from the flight school indicated that they flew but wouldn't land or take off the planes they were instructed to fly. Flight simulators are also available to the public for their Personal PC's, but the simulators that the aviation industry has uses full cockpits that are on hydrolic gimbles to simulate yaw, pitch and roll.

37: The World Trade Center buildings were able to take multiple impacts from large planes.

37a: The WTC buildings were only designed to take the impacts from one Boeing 707 to each building at the time of completion in 1974. They weren't designed to take the impacts of a Boeing 757 and a 767, which were much larger, faster and carried more fuel loads than the Boeing 707. The WTC buildings could take multiple impacts from smaller lightweight planes, but never multiple impacts from Boeings 707s, 757s and 767s. Truthers rely on this myth to try and "confirm" that the buildings were "able to withstand multiple hits" from larger aircraft. If this was the case the WTC's would've been totally engulfed in fuel and fire and they would've collapsed in less than an 1/2 hour instead of about 1 hour. To a 9/11 Truther, it's as if the R.M.S. Titanic could stand the impact of multiple icebergs without sinking, since the claim that the ship was "virtually unsinkable" by Shipbuilder Magazine in 1912.

38: The dust that came from the World Trade Centers were pyroclastic flows.

38a: A pyroclastic flow is from a volcano and can kill people and animals with heat that comes from the pyroclastic dust cloud. An example of this can be found at Pompeii, where the city and people were buried under a blanket of volcanic dust. The people living in Pompeii were literally cooked to death by the heat given off by the pyroclastic flows. Even the volcano, Krakatoa, produced pyroclastic flows. The WTCs' weren't volcanos, there's a big difference between a building and a volcano. Also the vehicules, people and the paper from the WTCs' would've been burnt if the dust was a pyroclastic flow. Low and behold they didn't catch fire, proving that the Truthers are using a Fairy Story where buidings become volcanos.

39: The planes were not tracked by the FAA on radar because the transponders were turned off.

39a: The planes were tracked on radar, the FAA decided to track the planes on radar using the same system that was used by the U.S. Army Air Force in WWII. Even though the transponders were turned off by the Hijackers the planes could remain visible on radar. The transponder is used for identifying the aircraft, it's altitude and speed to the FAA.The Hijackers were squawking back to the FAA with their altitude on the radar.

40: The Flight Data Recorders on all 4 planes are fake and prove a conspiracy.

40a: The FDRs' were not faked in anyway. They proved to the 9/11 Commission and experts that all the flights FDR's were working and they caught the flight path of all 4 planes. There's no conspiracy with the FDRs', the FDRs' are like video cameras, they never lie.

41: The BBC predicted that WTC 7 was going to implode 20 mintues before it imploded.

41a: The BBC didn't predict that WTC 7 was going to collaspe. They only had warnings from the FDNY firefighters that the building was going to collapse due to the massive fires that were inside the building. WTC 7 never really imploded, it collapsed due to fire. There never was a CD at WTC 7 because the FDNY firefighters were there and saw the fires and the 9/11 Truthers weren't there to witness it. The BBC often makes mistakes, just like every News Media around the world makes mistakes every now and then.

42: The World Trade Center steel was destroyed to hide the evidence of a Government cover-up.

42a: Not all the WTC steel was destroyed or melted down. There's a large amount of WTC steel located in Hanger 17 at John F. Kennedy Airport in N.Y. There's no evidence to suggest or support that the steel wasn't hidden in a "cover-up". Alot of WTC steel was sent to China to be made into other products, it's called recycling. The WTC wasn't destroyed nor was it melted down to hide a supposed "Government cover-up". To make some sense of this matter, some WTC steel was made into the new U.S. Navy's ship "New York" . The bow of the "New York" is made from WTC steel.

43: Fuel from the planes could not have caused the WTCs' to collapse.

43a: The fuel on board the flights that hit the WTCs' and Pentagon consisted of about 19,000 gallons of aviation fuel. The fuel ignited from the sparks that occured when the planes impacted the steel surfaces. The materials inside the structures caught on fire and were the direct result of the structures to collapse, including damage from the planes impacts. The steel was softened and resulted in the WTCs' collapse. Truthers can't dispute this fact!

44: There were no bodies recovered from the 4 planes, including the hijackers. Proof that it was a cover-up. The fire would've destroyed the DNA.

44a: The human remains were recovered and identified through dental records and DNA analysis. The 19 hijackers were also identified through the same process. The recovery of the human remains from the 4 hijacked commercial planes. from WTC 1 and 2 and Flight 93 proves that it wasn't a "cover-up" and proof that it was a Terrorist Attack from the recovered body parts of the terrorist. It's possible that fire can destroy some DNA, but it can't destroy all the DNA when the blood has been splattered or preserved in surviving body parts from the victims.

45: Flight 77's wings showed no damage.

45a: There were no wings left. The wings weren't as strong as the fuselage, and there wouldn't be nothing left of them after an impact of 500 mph. The wings contained the fuel which ignited after Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon.

46: Gravity wasn't the result or cause of the WTCs' collapse. And jet fuel cannot travel down an elevator shaft.

46a: According to Newton's Law of Gravity: "What must go up, must come down.". The formula for gravity is simple, F = G,M,M2 (squared)xDistance2 (squared). F means Force, G means Gravity, M means Mass, M2 means Matter squared, times the Distance squared from varying heights. Although this forumla means a great deal, the Truthers will still insist that the "free fall speed" is included in the formula. Given the formula, there's 1 thing missing, Air Resistance. So the formula should look something like this: F=G,M,M2xD2 divided by AR. With air resistance, there can't be any type of "free fall speed" calculations. Even a sky diver deals with air resistance, which slows his decent. The WTCs' not only dealt with air resistance, but they had to deal with the structure of the buildings themselves, which was also the cause of further resistance called structural resistence. Thus slowing the collapse of the WTCs'.

The "free fall speed" theory is nothing short of a fallacy and a fairy story. Jet fuel can travel down an elevator shaft. It doesn't have any anti-gravity properties.

47: Hani Hanjour couldn't have flown Flight 77.

47a: Hani Honjour could've flown Flight 77 despite not being an able aviator. He was able to complete the nessesary tasks to fly a commercial airliner in the air. Hani Hanjour was a certified pilot and logged over 250 hours of flight time and has been flying since 1996. He wasn't able to take off or land a plane, that part is true, but he was able to fly it in the air and complete the manuvers that were seen by eyewitnesses on the ground and by Lt. Col. Steve O'Brian who was flying in a C-130 and saw Flight 77 at that time. It doesn't take much to steer a jet much less fly one.

48: Planes were flown by Remote Control.

48a: If the planes were flown by "remote control" they would've been followed by small craft airplanes or flown by a pilot sitting at simular flight controls from the Pentagon. But no evidence proves that the planes were ever flown by "remote control". All commerical jets have autopilots, none are remote controlled.

If the Truthers really want planes that fly by remote control why don't they visit a local R/C Model Airplane Club?

49: Elevator shaft is proof that a Controlled Demolition Company planted explosive charges at the Core Columns.

49a: The elevator shafts were being renovated in 2000. There would've been no way that a Controlled Demolition Company could've had workers without employees and office workers seeing them or hearing them tear away the gypsom walls to get to the core columns. Again there's no evidence to support the Controlled Demolition Theory. If it were possible, there would've been 100 crewmembers and they would've taken atleast 6 months, for each Tower, in order to put explosive charges on the core columns. There's just no evidence to support that theory.

50: Controlled Demolition Companies are working for and are part of the Federal Government.

50a: Controlled Demolition Companies are privately owned and are not working for or part of the Federal Government. When the Federal Government does want a Controlled Demolition Company to demolish a building of theirs, they're automatically put on record with the Controlled Demolition Company as a job that was done. Nothing proves that the Controlled Demoliton Companies are run by the Federal Government, there's no evidence to support the theory.

Deniability of Evidence:

9/11 Truthers deny the existence of all the hijacked commercial passenger planes, saying that they were either "holograms","missiles" or that there were "no planes" at all. They claim that Flight 175 and 11 were "holograms" and that "missiles" were aimed intentionally at the World Trade Center buildings 1 and 2. They also claim that Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon, that it "flew over" or that it was a "missile". They also claim that the 16 ft. hole in C-Ring is an entrance to where Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon and that the hole is "too small" for the entire plane to go through, going back to the "missile" theory. And that people "planted" parts of the aircraft at all the 9/11 sites. They also claim that the 19 hijackers are "still alive". They claim that Flight 93 was "shot down" by the U.S. Air Force. Another claim made by them is that Dick Cheney gave a "stand down" order to the United States Air Force not to shoot down the hijacked planes. They also claim that Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Centers', made a decision to "pull" World Trade Center building 7 down with "explosives". Also that WTC 1 and 2 was brought down by "explosives". Of course that kind of thinking is completely absurd since Mr. Silverstein was only the owner, and not a demolition company president. They also claim that the FDNY was involved in a "cover-up"to "blow up" WTC 1, 2, and 7. There's even a claim that thermite and thermate was used as a "high explosive". They claim to have found nano-thermite or super-thermite in the dust, amoung other things. Another outragous claim is "molten steel". Another claim is that the phone calls from the planes, whether the plane phones or cell phones, were "faked" and that the passengers were part of the "cover up". Another claim is that there were "no planes" on 9/11. They claim that the fires in the buildings were "oxygen starved". They claim that a man in a "cave", Osama Bin Laden, could not have perpatraited the event of 9/11. They claim that the firemen could have knocked down a "small fire" with only two handlines. They claim that the Jewish people were responsible. They claim that there was a "countdown". Truthers also claim that there will be a New World Order to things because September 11th happened under "speculation". They also look at videos from other Truthers and claim that they are the "real thing". And some other claims we forgot to mention will be added in the rest of this presentation. Of course none of those claims can ever be made into fact because the Truthers forget that they must provide evidence to prove those claims to be true, even the videos that Truthers supply on the internet need to prove their value of evidence. Despite over whelming evidence to contradict their denials, they still insist that what took place on 9/11 really didn't happen the way the witnesses and experts saw and investigated on that day. According to a 9/11 Truther, their depictions of 9/11 are the "real and unforetold" story of events surrounding 9/11. But they still deny the existence of the evidence presented by Government and civilian officials, investigators and experts. Plausible deniability is what a 9/11 Truther does when presented evidence that contradicts their own investigation and alledged evidence of a "Government Conspiracy". No matter how many times a person presents the evidence that 9/11 wasn't an "Inside Job" to a Truther, they will continue to deny it. So it's only plausible for a Truther to deny the existence that 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack and only plausible to make up a story that it was an "Inside Job", without any evidence to prove it to be true. Once again hearsay is being projected by the Truthers and can't be taken as truth.


Thermite:

The 9/11 Truthers always point out that thermite was used to "destroy" the Twin Towers. Little do they know that thermite is used in railroad construction to weld tracks and other steel products together. But this information is useless according to the Truthers. Thermite is also found on sparklers that children play with on the 4th of July and other events around the world. Thermite contains aluminum and iron dust particules, only way to light it is with a cannon fuse or a match. Thermite was invented in 1893. Truthers also point out that Thermate was used also, although thermate is a finer grain of aluminum and iron dust (iron rust). Nano-Thermite is also another subject that the Truthers use, according to the U.S. Army, nano-thermite is used in thermite grenades. Thermite grenades were used during WWII to prevent enemy artillery or tanks from being used. It would weld the breech to the barrel of the gun, thus renderring it useless. Truthers also bring up "super-thermite", which in fact is just ordinary thermite. What the Truthers do get is that thermate, nano-thermite and the alledged super-thermite is just the same product of thermite. It doesn't matter how small the aluminum and iron dust ( iron rust) particules are, it will react in the same way. It will fizzle like the sparklers on the 4th of July.

Cruise Missile: According to the 9/11 Truthers the Pentagon was impacted by a "cruise missile". There's 5 problems with that theory:

1: The 5 light poles that were damaged.

2: The massive generator being pushed 3 feet towards the building.

3: The 75 foot hole in the fascade caused by something more massive than a cruise missile.

4: Physical evidence of the cruise missile.

5: No eyewitnesses saw a cruise missile.

The Truthers believe that a cruise missile could pinball off 5 light poles, fly towards a generator causing it to move 3 feet towards the Pentagon, and then cause a 75 foot hole, a size bigger and wider than a cruise missile, in the fascade without causing damage to the missile itself or exploding before hitting the building. Truthers often point out that the 16 foot hole was caused by a cruise missile in the Pentagons C-Ring, which is 3 rings inside the building and not the fascade. It would have to be some kind of "Magic Cruise Missile" to do all that, and more, then have no physical evidence to prove its existence. Truthers often take Mike Walters quote out of context when he said that he saw Flight 77 flying into the Pentagon and that it "was like a cruise missile". The Truthers actually take that part out in Mike Walters quote to try and prove that it was a "cruise missile" and not Flight 77. If a "cruise missile" did hit the Pentagon, then where's the physical evidence after it hit 5 light poles and a generator? The Truthers must have an answer to the question and show the evidence to prove it. Again, the Truthers bear the full burden to prove this theory.

Operation Northwoods:

The 9/11 Truthers claim that "Operation Northwoods" is the only reasonable piece of "evidence" to prove that the U.S. Government conspired to kill it's own citizens. However the case may be, "Operation Northwoods" was vetoed in 1962 by President John F. Kennedy and Robert S. McNamera from the United States Defense. The operation was to fly a drone Military aircraft, full of dummies, over Intenational Waters near Cuba, blow up the drone and blame Cuba for the tragedy. If the operation would have been executed the United States would have invaded Cuba to destroy or capture Russian ballistic missiles, which were supplied to the Cubans by Russia. Truthers forget that in 1962 that a war was on-going, it was known at the time, the "Cold War". "Operation Northwoods" was declassified on Novemeber, 17, 1997, almost 5 years before the events on September 11th. The Truthers still insist that the operation is a piece of "evidence" to place blame on the United States. In "Operation Northwoods" it doesn't even talk about September 11th. So it doesn't really matter to the investigation of the terrorist attack.

IN LOVING MEMORY OF THE 2,995 SOULS THAT LOST THEIR LIVES ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001.

"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. That from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. That we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. That this Nation, under God, shall have a new birth of Freedom. And that Government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the Earth. President Abraham Lincoln Nov. 19, 1863" 




12 comments:

  1. Any negative comments will be removed. Either show the evidence to counter the blog or don't reply to it at all. Your choice!

    PS: Don't use YouTube or Truther websites as an excuse. Do your own research and prove to me and everyone that you have an open mind and aren't a robot parroting the same mindless chatter that the rest of the cult leaders of the Truth Movement constantly do on a daily basis.

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    1. http://wilbertworld666.blogspot.com/

      FUCK YOU WILBERT

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  2. I offer a challenge to Brian Good to come here to this blog and debate logically with me. I want him to read everything on this blog and do a point by point "debunking" of this blog.

    If Brian doesn't show up to debate logically or he comes here throwing a hissy fit then people will know that he doesn't have a single cell in his brain.

    What say you Brian Good, are you up to the challenge or are you going to chicken out?

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    1. WILBERT YOU SHITEATING PRICK

      http://wilbertworld666.blogspot.com/

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  3. Beware of user TruthersRAlwaysWrong. He is a dangerous nut job and a libellous, slanderous criminal. For more info read below..........
    This channel is dedicated to outing those who abuse You Tube users and then claim they are being abused.
    The biggest abuser on You Tube goes by the name of TruthersRAlwaysWrong. He is also know as 911 Chewy Defense and whyaskquestions.
    His REAL name is Will Clark and he lives in Johnstown Pennsylvania. He is aged 32. He claimed to be a Fire Fighter with qualifications and at one point said he was a Fire Fighter at 9/11. This was until i and other members here on You Tube uncovered his bizzare lies and distortions.
    He has been banned on numerous forums including the JREF forum and David Icke forum. Go ahead and google his sock accounts and real name. It makes for hilarious but disturbing reading. He's a dangerous clown, a child like mentalist. If you come across him report him.

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  4. Whyohwhyfools real name is:

    Daryl Martin Carstensen
    16705 Aleutian Dr.
    Pine Mountain Club, CA-93222

    The guy has been harassing and stalking people on this YouTube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

    He also uses other accounts to harass and stalk other users.

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  5. This blog belongs to a piece of shit named -

    Wilbert E. Clark III
    131 Joseph Ave.
    1381 Hope St.
    Johnstown, PA 15902
    (814)533-2356

    His mother's name is Deborah and she is fat and is a hooker, and is dad is Willy Jr. a closet homosexual that sits about the house with his unwashed hand on his tiny nuts. His sister is fat and called Marsha. Wilbert is NOT a "qualified firefighter" he is an internet troll and a stalker, and has made death threats to me and to Whyohwhyfools.

    Wil Clark must be stopped. Check out my awesome anti-Wilbert blog, you fucks!

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  6. Whyohwhyfools and Gooby Gooby are the same person:

    John M. Anderson
    620 E. McKellips Rd
    Tempe, AZ 85281

    He has made threats to kill people.

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  7. Wilbert E. Clark III has in fact made threats to kill ME and my family. He told me that he was going to "hunt" my parents, and he told me he was going to kill my band members, and other assorted family members. He think that scares me, because he thinks that I am the above person, John. No, I am not. The address and phone number for Wilbert, however, that I provided above is in fact correct. The Joseph address is his parents house.

    Wilbert E. Clark III, the only guy DUMB enough to threaten people that know where he and his family lives. Willy should win the Darwin Award for this one. Dumbfuck.

    Yes, I have made a SHITLOAD of threats to kill people. Every day, I threaten to murder another human being. Usually I just make them blow me instead. Not Willy, though. He has to blow me FIRST.

    So anyway, check out my killer blog!

    http://wilbertworld666.blogspot.com/

    It's way better than this "9/11 Truthers Exposed" bullshit. Where in this pile of shit does he "expose" any truthers? You want me to expose Willy? Go to the blog. Wilbert is a piece os fucking shit, and I have no respect for him whatsoever. The guy is a fucking liar. He told all his forum members and others that he saw the first plane hit the first tower on 9/11, live on TV.

    Well, anyone and everyone knows that the first hit was NOT shown on TV, until the next day. Unexpected event - there were no news cameras on the WTC until after the first explosion.

    Nevertheless, Wilbert insisted on it. He argued with a lot of people about it, and he finally meekly admitted that he was wrong, but not before getting banned from the forum, and being exposed after trying to hack into another user's account. Willy wanted to hack into this guy's account because he humiliated him when Willy said he saw the first plane hit on TV. Willy wanted to vandalize the guy's account, possibly do something rotten. What a little bitch. As soon as he was found out (the admin got a notice saying someone tried to access an account unsuccessfully multiple times) his IP info was posted. This IP info led to the Hope St. address listed above.

    Steer clear from this filthy faggot Wilbert and if you ever see him, slap him and cut his cock off if you can find it, and stick it up his fat, stupid ass and then piss on his face. Whatever you do, make sure he cries and weeps openly and says, "GOOBY GOOBY."

    Wil Clark's favorite phrase is "Gooby Gooby", he walks around Johnstown singing, Gooby gooby Goo Goo GOO!! and he even whispers Gooby into his father's ear while making out with him and butt fucking like a couple of Pennsylvania faggots (Willy's dad molested him when he was five or so, and never stopped. Willy will be 35 this September.) Wilbert's mother Debbie does not approve of the incestuous fag shit so Willy III and Willy Jr. go on lots of faggoty fishing and camping trips where they lick each other's faces and necks and fill one another's rectal orifices with semen. Willy is impotent - except for with his pops.

    I apologize for the graphic images - but it is important that you all know how fucking SHITTY and WORTHLESS and DISGUSTING Wilbert E. Clark III really is. Very.

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  8. The author of this shitstain "blog" is named Wilbert E. Clark III and he is going by the name of -

    FockU John

    on Youtube. Especially here -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

    Willy will occasionally post something, usually an incredibly gay threat or some other dumb shit, like announcing that his name is now "Joseph" and he lives in "Laughlin, Nevada". He used to post dumbass retarded shit about 9/11 but I schooled his idiotic bitch ass and he knows better now than to do that anymore. He's a piece of shit. Fuck you, Willy the Impotent Poodle of Johnstown, PA. How's Brandi? Still looks like she got shit on, permanently? Why would God do that to a young girl? Make her ugly like that? Pretty mean of God. How's Nathan Raymond Keim doing, Wilbert? Are you going to ever confess to your crimes, you fuck?

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  9. What you're doing is a Federal Crime.

    FYI:

    http://www.aftab.com/index.php?page=the-federal-cyberstalking-law

    "Enacted cyber-bullying/harassment/stalking federal legislation:

    18 U.S.C. section 2425 - Whoever, using the mail or any facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce, or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, knowingly initiates the transmission of the name, address, telephone number, social security number, or electronic mail address of another individual, knowing that such other individual has not attained the age of 16 years, with the intent to entice, encourage, offer, or solicit any person to engage in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

    18 U.S.C. 875(c) -- Making a federal crime, punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, to transmit any communication in interstate or foreign commerce containing a threat to injure the person of another. Section 875(c) applies to any communication actually transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce - thus it includes threats transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce via the telephone, e-mail, beepers, or the Internet.

    47 U.S.C. 223 - Making a federal crime, punishable by up to two years in prison, to use a telephone or telecommunications device to annoy, abuse, harass, or threaten any person at the called number. The statute also requires that the perpetrator not reveal his or her name.

    Interstate Stalking Act - Makes it a crime for any person to travel across state lines with the intent to injure or harass another person and, in the course thereof, places that person or a member of that person's family in a reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury. See: 18 U.S.C. 2261A."

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  10. I will see to it that the FBI is aware of what you're doing "Gooby Gooby/Whyohwhyfools/John M. Anderson of Tempe, AZ

    FYI: You have yet to prove that me and other people are the same person that you're sexually obcessed with. Continue with your pathetic memes, you're just making yourself look like a total ass.

    Truthers always have a sexual attraction to debunkers when they get their asses whipped by logic, evidence and reasoning.

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